Dillon, is one of … Dillon, is one of the parasites that were always in search of a new host from CNBC.He’s way out of his league trying to have a debate with alan grayson.CNBC threw him to the curb after the market crash.Now he works@msnbc.Wants to see how he could fu_k up things there I guess phony billionaire hosts to cheerlead for are becoming obsolete In these times. These people never give up
I see the whining … I see the whining masses of shrill shills have been through here. The stench of zombie powder fills the air. I would ask if it hurts to have sold your soul, but the undead can’t answer with any other words than those their master fill their rotting mouths with. Fuck all of you, Health Care reform will happen.
You bounced from an … You bounced from an obvious missreading, to a weak denial, and then tripped and fell into a smear/generalization in just a few short sentences. Good on you, keeping the debate intelligent and free of soundbites.
i didnt misread … i didnt misread anything, you used the word “public” in the same way socialists always use it, as if to imply that anything the government does is for the people and thats obviously not true. lobbying interests will continue to win this silly game as long as people like you continue to think government is there to serve the “public”.
Heh, I think you … Heh, I think you misread what I wrote. To quote myself, “The U.K. model is lousy and if anything should serve as an example of what NOT to do when creating a public healthcare plan.”. Ie: solid public healthcare is possible, just don’t follow the U.K. model, as it doesn’t work nearly as well as others.
We don’t need or … We don’t need or want Health Care Reform. Fix whats broken and leave what works alone. Open up the states to other insurance companies. All the Dems want is total control. We as a Nation can take care of ourselves. More jobs create more money to buy more health care. “Faux”bama’s policies will not create jobs, they will eliminate jobs. We have lost 200k jobs per month since this boob took office.
Why do people keep … Why do people keep compairing healthcare models betweeen the U.K. and the U.S.? The U.K. model is lousy and if anything should serve as an example of what NOT to do when creating a public healthcare plan.
5 year relative … 5 year relative survival rate for prostate cancer – u.s. 100% u.k. 77% those 23% either die during the wait time (6 months) or the cancer progresses to the point where treatment is useless.
ok, i’ll ask you … ok, i’ll ask you again, who should decide??? are you to afraid to let the facts get in the way of your ideology?? you should watch videos on youtube of british mp daniel hannan talking about the NHS if you think its better than what we have here.
WTF are you talking … WTF are you talking about? Did you have a major surgery that you couldn’t get covered? I doubt that. You just made up that life expectancy is higher. 45,000 people die because they don’t have adequate health care, not just insurance. That’s a fact. Now go talk to Gazoo the little green man in your head who has been telling you about death panels and quit bugging me, you’re a clown and an annoying one too. If you’re 31 why do you have a different age on your profile. You lie about that too?
No, but you … No, but you evidently are as dumb as you appear to be. Again, I wouldn’t be deciding when my last year is, that is a figment of your imagination. In all those countries, people live longer than they do here. Honestly how stupid are you to count something imaginary as knowledge? The government certainly won’t be deciding what anybody’s last year is, but in your preferred system, some insurance company bureaucrat does that all the time. And again, you support it.
I am 31 and i have … I am 31 and i have no insurance, last time i was in a hospital my wait time was around 2 hours. nobody ever said anything about not fixing my problem. they sent me a bill, thats what they do! do u know how stupid you sound when you say 45,000 people died because they didnt have insurance?? life expectancy is higher in the u.s. than anywhere else in the world once you take out murders and accidental deaths(go ahead, look into it). we have a lot more of those here than anywhere else.
you still didnt … you still didnt answer my question, are you really this dumb?? who should decide when your last year is? its not a figment of my imagination its really a hot-button issue in countries with socialized health care. so are you going to answer?? i dont even know what sara palin said and i dont care what she thinks.
Oh I don’t think … Oh I don’t think you have to worry about talking down to anybody. There r no death panels. So AGAIN, you r asking me a figment of your imagination & it doesn’t have an answer. Feedback is results & for profit health care has worse results than all the other civilized countries.
I’ll tell you what, you tell me what the wait time is when you have no health insurance or your company rescinds it because you had acne when you were 18? For 45,000 people that wait time is death. Which you advocate.
what is the … what is the feedback mechanism to signal efficiency in socialized health care? do you realize that profit is the feedback mechanism on a free market? i dont mean to talk down to you because you, like most people who are in favor of socialized medicine, dont understand simple economics. i actually feel sorry for you and i’d like to help. are you looking forward to waiting 30 days to have kidney stones removed? its gonna hurt pretty bad.
way to publically … way to publically demonstrate your own ignorance and avoid my question at the same time! why respond to my comment if you dont have an answer to the question?? who should decide when your last year is?? what youre talking about is the insurance industry, not the health care industry. one of the big problems with health care is that insurance is needed for everything. if it was a free (no state intervention) industry, insurance would be for catastrophies and things that dont happen much.
as Chomsky said, … as Chomsky said, the only reason why health care reform had a chance of passing this time around was because big corporations did not want to pay the tab anymore like GM for example… well these big corporations are broke! so they can’t pay as much money for lobbying as the insurance giants and pharmaceutical companies
Yes I do, there are … Yes I do, there are no death panels. Especially not defined the way Palin and others have tried to argue it.
Of course, for profit systems definitely have death panels. I’d say you could ask Nataline Sarkisyan about that but… oh wait, she’s dead. 45,000 people a year die because of a for profit system, and you want to make up something that doesn’t even exist. Even if it did exist, it doesn’t kill as many people as our system currently does.
corporations could … corporations could not exist the way they do now if it werent for the state backing them. the people running the corporation have zero risk, that could not happen on a free market. on a free market, a corporation is a pool of risk, but they still have something at risk. democrats are just as responsible for this as republicans. anyway, the corporate “enablers” you refer are neo-cons.
Dude, politicians … Dude, politicians are what they are and in America policy making is a dirty game of PR. I’m thrilled Grayson shouted some in yer face facts and off the biggest corporate enablers that I know of. Otherwise I give a of what you think.
do you even … do you even understand what they mean by “death panels”?? do you understand that in socialized health care systems withholding treatment in the last year of life is a way that they cut costs???? so who should decide when your last year is??
October 2, 2009
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
Dillon, is one of …
Dillon, is one of the parasites that were always in search of a new host from CNBC.He’s way out of his league trying to have a debate with alan grayson.CNBC threw him to the curb after the market crash.Now he works@msnbc.Wants to see how he could fu_k up things there I guess phony billionaire hosts to cheerlead for are becoming obsolete In these times. These people never give up
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
I see the whining …
I see the whining masses of shrill shills have been through here. The stench of zombie powder fills the air. I would ask if it hurts to have sold your soul, but the undead can’t answer with any other words than those their master fill their rotting mouths with.
Fuck all of you, Health Care reform will happen.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
You bounced from an …
You bounced from an obvious missreading, to a weak denial, and then tripped and fell into a smear/generalization in just a few short sentences.
Good on you, keeping the debate intelligent and free of soundbites.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
i didnt misread …
i didnt misread anything, you used the word “public” in the same way socialists always use it, as if to imply that anything the government does is for the people and thats obviously not true. lobbying interests will continue to win this silly game as long as people like you continue to think government is there to serve the “public”.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
Heh, I think you …
Heh, I think you misread what I wrote. To quote myself, “The U.K. model is lousy and if anything should serve as an example of what NOT to do when creating a public healthcare plan.”.
Ie: solid public healthcare is possible, just don’t follow the U.K. model, as it doesn’t work nearly as well as others.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
exactly, DO NOT let …
exactly, DO NOT let the government get involved.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
We don’t need or …
We don’t need or want Health
Care Reform. Fix whats broken and leave what works alone. Open up the states to other insurance companies. All the Dems want is total control. We as a Nation can take care of ourselves. More jobs create more money to buy more health care. “Faux”bama’s policies will not create jobs, they will eliminate jobs. We have lost 200k jobs per month since this boob took office.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
Why do people keep …
Why do people keep compairing healthcare models betweeen the U.K. and the U.S.?
The U.K. model is lousy and if anything should serve as an example of what NOT to do when creating a public healthcare plan.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
5 year relative …
5 year relative survival rate for prostate cancer – u.s. 100%
u.k. 77%
those 23% either die during the wait time (6 months) or the cancer progresses to the point where treatment is useless.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
ok, i’ll ask you …
ok, i’ll ask you again, who should decide??? are you to afraid to let the facts get in the way of your ideology?? you should watch videos on youtube of british mp daniel hannan talking about the NHS if you think its better than what we have here.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
who should decide?? …
who should decide?? are you ever gonna answer or will you just continue spouting misinformation?
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
WTF are you talking …
WTF are you talking about? Did you have a major surgery that you couldn’t get covered? I doubt that. You just made up that life expectancy is higher. 45,000 people die because they don’t have adequate health care, not just insurance. That’s a fact. Now go talk to Gazoo the little green man in your head who has been telling you about death panels and quit bugging me, you’re a clown and an annoying one too. If you’re 31 why do you have a different age on your profile. You lie about that too?
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
No, but you …
No, but you evidently are as dumb as you appear to be. Again, I wouldn’t be deciding when my last year is, that is a figment of your imagination. In all those countries, people live longer than they do here. Honestly how stupid are you to count something imaginary as knowledge? The government certainly won’t be deciding what anybody’s last year is, but in your preferred system, some insurance company bureaucrat does that all the time. And again, you support it.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
I am 31 and i have …
I am 31 and i have no insurance, last time i was in a hospital my wait time was around 2 hours. nobody ever said anything about not fixing my problem. they sent me a bill, thats what they do! do u know how stupid you sound when you say 45,000 people died because they didnt have insurance?? life expectancy is higher in the u.s. than anywhere else in the world once you take out murders and accidental deaths(go ahead, look into it). we have a lot more of those here than anywhere else.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
you still didnt …
you still didnt answer my question, are you really this dumb?? who should decide when your last year is? its not a figment of my imagination its really a hot-button issue in countries with socialized health care. so are you going to answer?? i dont even know what sara palin said and i dont care what she thinks.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
Oh I don’t think …
Oh I don’t think you have to worry about talking down to anybody. There r no death panels. So AGAIN, you r asking me a figment of your imagination & it doesn’t have an answer. Feedback is results & for profit health care has worse results than all the other civilized countries.
I’ll tell you what, you tell me what the wait time is when you have no health insurance or your company rescinds it because you had acne when you were 18? For 45,000 people that wait time is death. Which you advocate.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
what is the …
what is the feedback mechanism to signal efficiency in socialized health care? do you realize that profit is the feedback mechanism on a free market? i dont mean to talk down to you because you, like most people who are in favor of socialized medicine, dont understand simple economics. i actually feel sorry for you and i’d like to help. are you looking forward to waiting 30 days to have kidney stones removed? its gonna hurt pretty bad.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
so i’ll ask you …
so i’ll ask you AGAIN, who should decide when your last year is going to be in a socialized medicine program??
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
way to publically …
way to publically demonstrate your own ignorance and avoid my question at the same time! why respond to my comment if you dont have an answer to the question?? who should decide when your last year is?? what youre talking about is the insurance industry, not the health care industry. one of the big problems with health care is that insurance is needed for everything. if it was a free (no state intervention) industry, insurance would be for catastrophies and things that dont happen much.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
as Chomsky said, …
as Chomsky said, the only reason why health care reform had a chance of passing this time around was because big corporations did not want to pay the tab anymore like GM for example… well these big corporations are broke! so they can’t pay as much money for lobbying as the insurance giants and pharmaceutical companies
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
Alan Grayson for …
Alan Grayson for speaker of the house!
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
Yes I do, there are …
Yes I do, there are no death panels. Especially not defined the way Palin and others have tried to argue it.
Of course, for profit systems definitely have death panels. I’d say you could ask Nataline Sarkisyan about that but… oh wait, she’s dead. 45,000 people a year die because of a for profit system, and you want to make up something that doesn’t even exist. Even if it did exist, it doesn’t kill as many people as our system currently does.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
corporations could …
corporations could not exist the way they do now if it werent for the state backing them. the people running the corporation have zero risk, that could not happen on a free market. on a free market, a corporation is a pool of risk, but they still have something at risk. democrats are just as responsible for this as republicans.
anyway, the corporate “enablers” you refer are neo-cons.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
Dude, politicians …
Dude, politicians are what they are and in America policy making is a dirty game of PR. I’m thrilled Grayson shouted some in yer face facts and off the biggest corporate enablers that I know of. Otherwise I give a of what you think.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:18 am
do you even …
do you even understand what they mean by “death panels”?? do you understand that in socialized health care systems withholding treatment in the last year of life is a way that they cut costs???? so who should decide when your last year is??